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Thursday, October 31, 2013

A Message About Elam

Prophecy Confusing??

Present day Iran
One thing we have learned over the course of the last several years in our study of bible prophecy is that there are a vast number of different interpretation of coming events and a great deal of disagreement among prophecy scholars, (we consider ourselves to be only students of prophecy - still learning).  From the ethnic identity of the Antichrist, (Muslim, European, apostate Jew, even Nephilim), to what is Babylon of the last days, (Rome, actual Babylon rebuilt, America), to the timing of the Gog/Magog war, (pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, its actually Armageddon).  

It can be very confusing to sort through the many, many different interpretations to come to some sort of idea as to what will occur in these, the last days.  This is why so many Christians simply just through up their hands and become Pan-Trib Christians, (it will all just pan-out in the end).

A case in point of the confusing interpretations is that of the prophecy of Jeremiah regarding Elam.  We have two very well known and respected prophecy scholars of the pre-millennial, pre-tribulation rapture of the Church persuasion, offering completely different prospectives about that prophecy. Bill Salus believes the prophecy is still yet to be fulfilled, (our belief), and Jack Kelly believes it has already been fulfilled except for one verse.  (See articles below).

We enjoy reading all the different arguments for the various prophecy interpretations as it gives us pause to consider our own prospectives, and perhaps tweak our understanding.  What we don't care for in the arguments is when one prophecy scholar degrades and dismisses the prospectives of another, (only when such interpretations are so outlandish and outrageous should this ever occur).

We know that many readers that visit our blog and read our material will have disagreements with some of the prospectives and interpretations that we have, (comes with the territory). We hope though that those differences can be set aside and the other material we present on this blog will be beneficial and useful to the reader.  We have no desire to confuse, only the desire to open up prophecy as best we know how to folks interested in what is happening to our world from a biblical standpoint.  

This is what the LORD Almighty says: "See, I will break the bow of Elam, the mainstay of their might. I will bring against Elam the four winds from the four quarters of heaven; I will scatter them to the four winds, and there will not be a nation where Elam's exiles do not go.  will shatter Elam before their foes, before those who want to kill them; I will bring disaster on them, even my fierce anger," declares the LORD. "I will pursue them with the sword until I have made an end of them. I will set my throne in Elam and destroy her king and officials," declares the LORD. "Yet I will restore the fortunes of Elam in days to come," declares the LORD. Jeremiah 49:35-39 NIV

A Message About Elam - Jack Kelly
I think it's reasonable to expect prophecies that have only been partially fulfilled in history to have their ultimate fulfillment in our future.  The idea that a partial historical fulfillment points to a complete future fulfillment is a well established principle in the Bible. Two examples we've reviewed recently are Isaiah 17 and Psalm 83.  The literal and complete fulfillment of these prohecies has not happened yet. But from my research it appears that the only part of Jeremiah's prophecy that remains a question mark is verse 39.  The Elamites were defeated and scattered among the nations just as Jeremiah predicted.  The nation ceased to exist and there's been no mention of them since. There are other cases of nations being as totally erased from history and then suddenly reappearing.  Israel and Babylon are two obvious examples.  But with both of them there are multiple chapters with detailed descriptions of their re-emergence and subsequent destiny.  With Elam we get one non-definitive verse.

The Dual Prophecies of Iran – Bill Salus
Presently, Persia and Elam comprise greater Iran. Elam covered west-central Iran as depicted in the image, and Persia encompassed most of the other surrounding territory. A careful study suggests both Ezekiel’s and Jeremiah’s Iranian prophecies appear to be unfulfilled end time events. If so, this suggests that modern day Iran faces a double jeopardy in the last days. Jeremiah predicts that Elam will be struck at the foremost place of its strength. If such an attack occurred in the near future that would probably be its nuclear site(s). Not necessarily all sites, but specifically sites existing within the boundaries of ancient Elam. A prime target would be the Bushehr nuclear site identified in the image.
Subsequently, the prophet warns that after the attack the affected populations are forced to scatter from the area. Jeremiah says, “There shall be no nations where the outcasts of Elam will not go.” This could be the result of Iranian’s attempting to flee from an isolated nuclear disaster. Should the Bushehr nuclear reactor be struck, this becomes a very real possibility because the facility is loaded with Russian supplied fuel rods. These rods were loaded during the summer of 2010. At the time former UN Ambassador John Bolton warned that once the rods were loaded in place, an attack upon the site could result in severe radioactive fallout.

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